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Groudon IVs — Attack 15 Required · Line 15/15/14 (Master League)

💯 CP 4652 · L50 · Season 28 (2026.09.08~12.01) · Updated 2026-10-09

Still got a Groudon sitting in your box? Finally scraped the XL together but it didn't come out 100%? Before you hit power-up — 30 seconds. We re-ran it on the Season 28 meta and the bar moved up.

Through Season 27 the rule was "keep attack at 15 and you can be relaxed about defense and HP." Season 28 is different. Shadow Zekrom arrived in October and created one knife-edge matchup, so shaving even a single point of defense now shows. Below is the top 100 of the Master meta run through a battle simulator, plus the mirror, Kyogre and best buddy, all recalculated. (Hundo 1-shield record: 60W 40L.)

Compromise IVs
15 / 15 / 14
At L50, at or above this the win/loss matchups are identical to a hundo. Season 27's line (15/13/14) is now inside the compromise zone.

Build it or not — at a glance

✅
Just build · 15 / 15 / 14 or better
Not a single matchup flips across the full top 100. Don't overthink it — power it up.
⚠️
Conditional · Defense 13–14 (15/14/x, 15/13/15)
You lose Shadow Zekrom at 0 shields. That's the only one, so it's fine if you need it now — but 'defense is free' no longer holds.
❌
Don't build yet · Attack 14 or below
Groudon, Kyogre and Origin Dialga share the same effective attack, so attack-14 always loses CMP priority in the mirror and to those two. Don't build it — wait for a better one.

🔬 Full-meta sim — all 100, who you meet & beat

1-on-1 battles vs the Master League top 100, per shield. Green = win, red = loss. (Rating 500 = even; higher = more comfortable.)

60W60%40L
Palkia (Origin)543
Zacian (Crowned Sword)769
Zygarde (Complete Forme)443
Metagross595
Kyurem (White)389
Reshiram769
Xerneas436
Kyogre497
Dialga (Origin)565
Eternatus595
Ursaluna487
Kyurem (Black)389
Reshiram (Shadow)353
Lugia326
Lunala521
Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)616
Ursaluna (Shadow)513
Necrozma (Dawn Wings)614
Marshadow589
Zekrom380
Zekrom (Shadow)470
Necrozma (Dusk Mane)649
Lugia (Shadow)369
Palkia (Shadow)289
Ho-Oh348
Garchomp (Shadow)519
Metagross (Shadow)398
Groudon500
Melmetal633
Keldeo (Resolute)516
Garchomp652
Gyarados (Shadow)342
Kyogre (Shadow)500
Palkia548
Latios (Shadow)459
Keldeo (Ordinary)516
Rillaboom358
Yveltal337
Giratina (Altered) (Shadow)614
Florges324
Landorus (Therian)451
Solgaleo701
Dialga (Shadow)361
Meloetta (Aria)529
Primarina194
Dialga769
Gholdengo654
Kyurem557
Latios372
Dragonite (Shadow)385
Mewtwo (Shadow)521
Giratina (Altered)676
Groudon (Shadow)500
Hydreigon (Shadow)546
Goodra314
Ho-Oh (Shadow)408
Latias (Shadow)398
Gyarados358
Togekiss356
Tapu Lele565
Jirachi644
Latias529
Enamorus (Therian)300
Tyranitar (Shadow)622
Mewtwo570
Conkeldurr (Shadow)420
Dragonite614
Rhyperior (Shadow)567
Rhyperior622
Sylveon529
Heatran (Shadow)554
Genesect (Shock)663
Genesect (Chill)663
Raikou (Shadow)747
Baxcalibur407
Salamence (Shadow)513
Urshifu (Single Strike)538
Darkrai (Shadow)458
Kingambit676
Snorlax (Shadow)709
Hydreigon619
Volcanion244
Golisopod (Shadow)502
Urshifu (Rapid Strike)273
Tyranitar649
Heatran627
Raikou777
Golisopod524
Zapdos589
Zapdos (Shadow)728
Hippowdon (Shadow)652
Snorlax482
Annihilape600
Mamoswine (Shadow)213
Annihilape (Shadow)692
Zacian (Hero)557
Zamazenta (Hero)616
Genesect (Burn)663
Landorus (Incarnate)657
Kommo-o698
⭐ Best Buddy (L51) effect — newly won matchups
Opponents you newly beat once best-buddied. The result depends on whether the opponent is best-buddied too, so both cases are shown.
Opp not BB (L50) · +8W
Kyogre⭐
Zekrom⭐
Metagross (Shadow)⭐
Groudon⭐
Kyogre (Shadow)⭐
Dragonite (Shadow)⭐
Groudon (Shadow)⭐
Snorlax⭐
Opp also BB (L51) · +2W
Metagross (Shadow)⭐
Dragonite (Shadow)⭐
※ The mirror and same-stat rival (Kyogre) return to a tie when the opponent is best-buddied too (both L51). So Best Buddy only wins the mirror when the opponent isn't best-buddied.

Why attack 15 is mandatory — CMP

Attack decides priority. Attack 14 always loses to a same-stat rival.

vsMirror (Groudon vs Groudon)
Mine (atk 14) vs Foe (atk 15)
shields0
L
494
shields1
Tie
500
shields2
L
339
vsvs rival · Kyogre
Mine (atk 14) vs Foe (atk 15)
shields0
L
154
shields1
L
233
shields2
L
176

Verdict by IV spread (Master League sim)

💡 15/15/15 at the top is the perfect IV (best); rows go to lower IVs downward.
Perfect·Battle-equal= win/loss identical to a hundo (no disadvantage — just use it).
Fine= it only loses to weaker (non-top) opponents, so it's acceptable to run.
N lost= it starts losing to N strong top-10 opponents — a real disadvantage.
CMP loss= at attack 14 you always lose the mirror / same-stat rivals.
‘Matchups lost’ = opponents you newly lose to at that spread (0/1/2 shields = how many shields are used).
IVs (Atk/Def/Sta)CPHPVerdictMatchups lost
15 / 15 / 154652184Perfectnone
14 / 15 / 154636184CMP loss
GolisopodGolisopod·shields1Zygarde (Complete Forme)Zygarde (Complete Forme)·shields2
15 / 15 / 144642184Battle-equalnone
15 / 15 / 134631183Fine
Zekrom (Shadow)Zekrom (Shadow)·shields0Genesect (Chill)Genesect (Chill)·shields0Golisopod (Shadow)Golisopod (Shadow)·shields1
15 / 15 / 1246211824 lost
Zekrom (Shadow)Zekrom (Shadow)·shields0Genesect (Chill)Genesect (Chill)·shields0Golisopod (Shadow)Golisopod (Shadow)·shields1Zygarde (Complete Forme)Zygarde (Complete Forme)·shields2
15 / 14 / 154643184Fine
Zekrom (Shadow)Zekrom (Shadow)·shields0
15 / 14 / 144632184Fine
Zekrom (Shadow)Zekrom (Shadow)·shields0
15 / 14 / 134622183Fine
Zekrom (Shadow)Zekrom (Shadow)·shields0Genesect (Chill)Genesect (Chill)·shields0Golisopod (Shadow)Golisopod (Shadow)·shields1
15 / 13 / 144623184Fine
Zekrom (Shadow)Zekrom (Shadow)·shields0Genesect (Chill)Genesect (Chill)·shields0Ursaluna (Shadow)Ursaluna (Shadow)·shields1Golisopod (Shadow)Golisopod (Shadow)·shields1
15 / 13 / 134612183Fine
Zekrom (Shadow)Zekrom (Shadow)·shields0Genesect (Chill)Genesect (Chill)·shields0Ursaluna (Shadow)Ursaluna (Shadow)·shields1Golisopod (Shadow)Golisopod (Shadow)·shields1
15 / 12 / 144613184Fine
Zekrom (Shadow)Zekrom (Shadow)·shields0Genesect (Chill)Genesect (Chill)·shields0Ursaluna (Shadow)Ursaluna (Shadow)·shields1Golisopod (Shadow)Golisopod (Shadow)·shields1
15 / 10 / 144594184Fine
Zekrom (Shadow)Zekrom (Shadow)·shields0Genesect (Chill)Genesect (Chill)·shields0Snorlax (Shadow)Snorlax (Shadow)·shields0Ursaluna (Shadow)Ursaluna (Shadow)·shields1Urshifu (Single Strike)Urshifu (Single Strike)·shields1Golisopod (Shadow)Golisopod (Shadow)·shields1

What changed in Season 28 — the reference matchup moved to Shadow Zekrom

In Season 27 Groudon's line was 15/13/14 and the first matchup to go was Genesect. In Season 28 that role belongs to Shadow Zekrom, which arrived in October. At 0 shields, the difference between 204.2 defense (def 15) and 203.4 (def 14) decides the fight — 0.8 of a stat turns a win into a loss. That's why the line moved from 15/13/14 up to 15/15/14. You don't need to scrap a Groudon built to last season's line (see below), but if you're picking a new one, aim for defense 15.

Attack 14 isn't a compromise — it's a fail

Groudon shares identical base stats and CP with Kyogre. When both fire a charged move on the same turn, the higher attack goes first (CMP) — and attack 14 always loses that priority to an attack-15 opponent. In the sim, attack-14 Groudon lost to attack-15 Kyogre across 0/1/2 shields (ratings 154/233/176), and lost the mirror at 0 shields (494 vs 505) and at 2 shields (339 vs 660); only 1 shield is a 500-500 tie. A nick in defense or HP barely shows in practice, but anything below attack 15 hands over the mirror and the rival outright.

This season defense matters more than HP — the order flipped

Dropping HP by one (15/15/14) doesn't flip a single matchup across all 100 — effective HP stays 184. But dropping defense by one (15/14/15) keeps HP intact and still loses Shadow Zekrom at 0 shields. Our Season 27 write-up said shaving one or two points of defense barely shows; in Season 28 it's the reverse. HP is free down to -1, and from -2 (15/15/13, 183 effective HP) you also drop Genesect (Chill Drive) and Shadow Golisopod.

Going lower — what stacks up

At 15/13/14 you add Shadow Ursaluna on top of Shadow Zekrom and Genesect; at 15/10/14 you also give up Shadow Snorlax (0 shields) and Urshifu Single Strike (1 shield). That doesn't mean 'unusable' — it means 'you concede specific matchups.' If those opponents have low real-world pick rates the practical cost is smaller than it looks. Keep using a 15/13/14 you already built; just weight defense when choosing the next one.

Best buddy — it depends on whether the opponent is best-buddied too

Best buddy (level +1) helps, but the size of the gain depends entirely on whether the opponent is best-buddied. The common mistake is to compute only your side as best-buddied, which inflates the effect. We ran both. (1) If the opponent is NOT best-buddied (L50), you newly win 8 matchups at 1 shield: Kyogre and Shadow Kyogre, Zekrom, Shadow Metagross and Shadow Dragonite, Snorlax, the Groudon mirror and Shadow Groudon — the extra level wins the priority and stat race. (2) But top-tier Master legendaries are usually best-buddied too (L51). With both at L51 the mirror and Kyogre go back to a tie, and you newly win only two: Shadow Metagross and Shadow Dragonite. So best buddy never hurts and is a clear edge against non-best-buddied opponents, but it is not a magic button that wins the best-buddied mirror.

One caveat: these breakpoints move with the meta — a single new arrival (Shadow Zekrom) pushed the line up two steps this season. If you're not using it right now, banking a higher-IV catch is the easier peace of mind.

⭐Best Buddy (L51) effectBB CP 4708 · L51

Best-buddying even a compromise improves every matchup and beats same-stat rivals.

Hundo record by shield count

shields 0
70W · 30L
shields 1
60W · 40L
shields 2
56W · 44L

Bottom line — attack 15 is non-negotiable (mirror & Kyogre CMP), and this season's line is 15/15/14. HP is free down to -1, but defense -1 already costs you Shadow Zekrom. Last season's 15/13/14 now sits in the compromise zone, though there's no need to replace one you've already built. Based on the Season 28 meta; updated when the season changes.

FAQ

Q. Attack is 14 — can I just build it?
Not recommended. Groudon shares its effective attack with Kyogre and Origin Dialga, so at attack 14 you always lose CMP priority to all three in the mirror. A shield fight that should be 50:50 becomes 0:100 — brutal in a mirror-heavy Master League.
Q. I built a 15/13/14 last season. Do I need a new one?
No. On the Season 28 meta a 15/13/14 drops Shadow Zekrom, Genesect and Shadow Ursaluna, but matches a hundo against the other ~90. There's no reason to throw away a Pokémon you already poured XL into. Just aim for defense 15 on the next one — same cost, three more matchups.
Q. 15/15/14 or 15/14/15 — which do I build?
15/15/14. Defense is the sensitive stat this season. HP -1 (15/15/14) keeps effective HP at 184 and flips nothing, while defense -1 (15/14/15) loses Shadow Zekrom at 0 shields.
Q. How long does this hold?
It's the Season 28 (Twilight Trails) meta. Just as Shadow Zekrom's arrival moved the line, new Pokémon or usage shifts will move the breakpoints again. When the season changes we re-run the full top-100 sim and update this.
Method
BasisSeason 28 (2026.09.08~12.01)ScopeMaster League Top 100Shields0 · 1 · 2Level50 / Best Buddy 51Battle engineGBL Note Simulator (PvPoke-based)Baseline15/15/15Last calculated2026-10-09
✔ Calculated & analyzed by GBL Note

These verdicts come from simulating each spread against the entire Master League top-100 across 0/1/2-shield scenarios with the open-source PvPoke engine. If no matchup flips versus a hundo it's 'Perfect/Battle-equal'; if it only loses to weaker (non-top) opponents it's 'Fine'; once it loses to a top-10 opponent it's 'N lost' by the number of losses. Attack 14 loses mirror priority — 'CMP loss'.

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